Todd Webb Follows Georgia O'Keeffe in the Desert
Meet Todd Webb, who lives in Virginia Beach, Virginia, and who graces the pages of the — upcoming! — second issue of Illustoria with a gorgeous, reflective piece about the great American painter Georgia O'Keeffe. Todd's comic is drawn, literally and figuratively, from O'Keeffe's own writings — he uses her own words. Webb shared shots of his studio, and his thoughts about creativity, and much more, in the following interview.
What were you like as a kid?
Shy and quiet — picked on a lot, so I kept to myself or a small but close group of friends. My favorite place was the library, and I was always reading or drawing.
What were some of your favorite childhood books?
Early on I read all the Encyclopedia Brown and Hardy Boys books — my dad still had a full set of Tom Swift books too and we read those together when I was really little. I've still got those. I read a lot of Peanuts collections. And Calvin & Hobbes. My dad had a lot of sci fi books so I read a bunch of those at an early age too, but eventually started reading "classics" — Salinger, Hemingway, etc. etc.
When did you know you wanted to be an artist and writer?
When I figured out that Charles Schulz made Peanuts and that was his job — the idea that you could grow up and draw comics for a living instantly overtook my brain, and I never stopped shooting for that goal, though eventually my aim shifted to comic books instead of comic strips.
Todd Webb's studio
Who or what inspires you?
Everything — haha. I'm constantly getting ideas from things and people I encounter, see, read about, etc. I like to read poetry. That always gives me weird fun ideas to try out with comics.
When do you feel you're most creative?
It used to be late at night, but as I've grown older I think I tend to do my best work if I get started first thing in the morning. But a big aspect of being creative is being able to make yourself just do the work every day — even if you're not feeling "inspired" — you've still gotta hit the drawing board and make something!
The artist at work
Do you have a favorite type of pen, or brush, or paper for drawing with?
For years now I've been inking with Faber Castell Pitt Artist brush pens. I love them! I usually draw on Strathmore Bristol board. I'll buy a big pad of it and trim the paper to whatever size I need for a specific project.
It all starts with pencil on paper.
What advice would you share with young aspiring artists?
Keep at it! And do it because you love it. Make work and show it to artists you admire. Don't be afraid of mistakes and don't think you need to draw a certain way or that you need special supplies. Do the best you can do with what you have!
Why did you draw something about Georgia O'Keefee?
There's a couple reasons. A few years back I got to see her painting "The Lawrence Tree" (which is a great painting of a tree she used to sit beneath on the Lawrence ranch, seen from beneath as if you were looking up through the branches) and I really liked it. So I started to dig through other works of hers I hadn't been familiar with, and that led me to a big collection of her letters, which were a great read as well. I ended up writing a song about the Lawrence Tree painting, as well as one inspired by a letter ("The Lawrence Tree" and "Georgia, 1931" respectively on the Seamonster album Baldessari). So that was one thing. In the interim, I've really enjoyed connecting with other artists and writers and musicians from the past whose work really speaks to me by making something myself inspired by their works, be it a comic, a drawing, or a piece of music. I think engaging with an inspiring piece of work by making a piece of my own helps me process and figure out what it is I like about it so much, and also serves as a way of having a "conversation" with that person who maybe isn't even alive anymore. Anyways, back to Georgia: in reading books about her I realized she was good friends with the photographer Todd Webb (which is my name!) and it was amusing to me when I'd come across a letter of hers addressed to someone with my name. It was pretty surreal. I was already familiar with that Todd Webb's work, because ever since Google was invented, if you search for me, you'd also get results for him (he was very well known, and many of his photos were of Georgia O'Keeffe) So I thought it would be fun to further confuse the internet by putting a work of my own out there about Georgia O'Keeffe.
Four panels from Todd's upcoming Illustoria comic
What was the process like, working from her own words?
Great fun! When I'm working on a piece like this, I really respond to particular writings of the artists that resonate with my own thinking. For years I used to keep a comic strip diary, and so working on a comic like "Georgia in the Desert" feels almost like drawing my own cartoon journal. I may be drawing about someone else and using their words, but it feels very personal to my own thinking. If that makes any sense!
How does the idea of making art from the things you come upon in everyday life — which is a theme of the comic you drew — inform your own work?
Immensely. I think the things we encounter every day we often take for granted, so it's fun to focus a work on something small and seemingly insignificant — we are surrounded by so much wonder and beauty and we often forget to pay it any mind — Georgia painting huge gorgeous abstractions based on the surface of a rock, or a bone, or a flower or a row of clouds is a perfect example of really appreciating your everyday surroundings, whatever they may be.
Todd's synthesizers are right on his studio bookshelf.
Tell us a bit about your music?
When I'm not drawing, I'm usually making music. At this point I have two projects: Seamonster is my main outlet, which is poppy semi-electronic songs that I guess sound a bit like girl groups from the 1950s mixed with something like Kraftwerk, haha. Contemporary songwriters like Stephen Merritt (of the Magnetic Fields), Mark Mulcahy (Miracle Legion, Polaris), and Dean Wareham (Galaxie 500) are huge influences. I also recently have started releasing music under the name Oahu, which is quieter ambient electronic experiments in the vein of Brian Eno or someone like William Basinski. Oahu uses lots of synthesizers and tape loops and has no singing. Its good background music for reading.
What work of yours should an Illustoria parent read next?
Chance Operations: it's a collection of shorter experimental comics where I used chance operations (made famous by composer John Cage) and flipped coins to determine where images, colors, and text would go. It reads more like poems than a traditional narrative, and has a little essay explaining the process in more detail.
An interior page from Webb's Chance Operations
What work of yours should an Illustoria kiddo read next?
Tuesday Moon: it's the story of a girl named Tuesday who has a rotten day at school, and is paid a visit by the Mann (two n's) in the Moon. They go on an adventure in space together and the moon helps her realize maybe her day wasn't as rotten as she thought it was. Raina Telgemeier, author of Smile, said, "Tuesday Moon is charming, thoughtful, and full of the best kind of whimsy."
An interior page from Tuesday Moon
Who We Are: Claire Astrow
illustration by Beth Haidle
Name: Claire Astrow
Location: Oakland, CA
Profession: Publishing Assistant at Illustoria Magazine
Claire holding the first issue of Illustoria at Skylight Books in Los Angeles.
Favorite Artist/Illustrator: My favorite all time illustrators are Jillian Tamaki, Daniel Clowes, and Tove Jansson. Currently, I’m obsessed with Phoebe Wall and Joohee Yoon. In the more general ‘artist’ category the list is always growing and growing, but my true heroes are Chris Johanson, Philip Guston, and Hope Gangloff.
Best book you’ve read in the past year: Americanah by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
Kids book you could read every night: Tar Beach by Faith Ringgold was my absolute favorite when I was a kid. I would get lost in the imaginative collage illustrations and pretend that I had the same super powers as Cassie Lightfoot to fly around New York City and have fabulous roof top parties with my family.
Tar Beach by Faith Ringgold
Best memory of being a kid: My family used to have a weekend ritual of loading up our car with bags of bagels and heading out for a picnic at the Marina del Rey beach. The bagels would always get half covered in sand but we would eat them anyways. Afterwards my sister and I would put on gobs of protective gear and get rollerskating lessons my mom, who was a 90s rollerskating fanatic.
Favorite weekend activity: Going to concerts and shows in SF, going on hikes, eating delicious food out in the Mission or Oakland’s Chinatown.
Song Currently on repeat: Jennifer Lara-I am in Love (so groovy)
Favorite meal: Pad thai, green curry, and sticky mango rice please!!!
Last time you made something with your hands: An EP album cover I made for my friend’s band, Dream Boat.
Loose Tooth EP cover for Dream Boat, by Claire Astrow
Fun fact about you: If I was born a boy, I would have been named Honus (after Honus Wagner) and my twin sister Lilly would have been named Cleon (Cleon Jones). I often fantasize about what Honus Gozonsky's life would have been like. Would he be ultra cool? Would he cope with all the name bullying? Would we be friends? The world will never know...
Drawing I made for my dad in 2015, Honus Wagner on the left and Cleon Jones on the right.
Who We Are: Genny McAuley
illustration by Agnes Lee
Name: Genny McAuley
Location: San Francisco, California
Profession: Book Peddler at Chronicle Books & florist
Genny with Grumpy Cat
Favorite artist/illustrator: Jon Stich & Oliver Jeffers
Best book you've read in the past year: The Keepers of the House by Shirley Ann Grau
Kids' book you could read every night: Weird Parents by Audrey Wood or Bears on Chairs by Shirley Parenteau
Best memory of being a kid: Going on road trips with my family. One time, we all went camping in Yosemite and after the first night, my mom and I decided we were too cold/the ground was no fun to sleep on so we left the boys in the woods and drove to my grandmother's house for the rest of the long weekend. I like camping now, but it was fun to fly by the seat of our pants and surprise my grandma with a visit from her girls!
Favorite weekend activity: Weeding the garden with my 18-month old nephew
Song currently on repeat: (this is embarassing) "Sorry" by Justin Beiber and (this isn't so embarassing) "Standing In the Shadow of Love" by The Four Tops
Genny dressed as an 80s hip hop cat (duh)
Favorite meal: A giant nicoise salad and chocolate coconut ice cream for dessert
Last time you made something with your hands: Yesterday! I put together many bouquets and hand-wrote notes for their recipients
Fun fact about you: My left eyebrow was born turning down at the end--it's grown up that way, too, and everything turned out all right!
Who We Are: Marc Weidenbaum
illustration by Agnes Lee
Name:
Marc Weidenbaum
Location:
The Richmond District, San Francisco, California
Profession:
writer/editor
Favorite artist/illustrator:
That's a tough call. I'm purposefully only listing here the names of people I've never worked with. For superhero comics it's been a tight race between Frank Quitely and Chris Bachalo for a long time, with David Aja and Adrian Alphona also prominently in the mix.
Chris Bachalo gets some young X-Men into surreal trouble.
In a more "literary comics" realm, right now I'm pretty fixated on Jillian Tamaki and Jason Shiga — Shiga especially as a visual-narrative thinker. Honestly, there are so many great artists working these days, I'd have a hard time keeping this list to under 50 names. In manga, I spend too much time lost in the work of Jiro Taniguchi and Yuichi Yokoyama. There's are so many I'd put as these folks' equals. We live in a Golden Age — oh, Golden Age is taken, so make that Platinum Age — of insanely fluid, original, varied comics art.
And speaking of surreal, here's a very dreamy image by Jillian Tamaki.
Best book you've read in the past year:
I don't think I've super-loved any of the books I've read in the past year. The best is probably Seveneves by Neal Stephenson. Starts off with a planet-wide catastrophe, and then speeds into the future.
Kids book you could read every night:
A Summery Saturday Morning by Margaret Mahy. Not all rhyming books are created equally. Some just rhyme, more as a matter of course than out of some sort of artistic purpose. Some rhyming books, as well, are more musical than others. This one inspires singing as much as reading. We've got a good little faux calypso (faulypso?) thing going with this household favorite.
Best memory of being a kid:
I grew up in the suburbs of New York City, out on Long Island. My favorite memory is something my parents used to do with us a lot, which was to go to Manhattan where we'd visit art galleries during the daytime and then head at night to Chinatown for dinner, usually Sichuan food. I've pretty much constructed my adult life so it takes my childhood memory and makes it a daily reality: a mix of artistic pursuits + spicy food. We also camped a lot when I was a kid, which is where this throwback photo of me originated:
Maybe this is from the summer when a Crater Lake ranger taught me the word "aesthetic."
Favorite weekend activity:
A packed day with my five-year-old, hitting museums and playgrounds, doing everything in the city by bus and foot.
Song currently on repeat:
"Saddest Continent on Earth" by Nonkeen (a band featuring keyboardist Nils Frahm) from a recent album called The Gamble.
Favorite meal:
If I have to choose one, dim sum.
Last time you made something with your hands:
Does it count that I've been constructing a modular synthesizer for the past year or so? Probably not. Frankly, I don't do this enough. I need to learn to solder.
You'd be amazed how much fun a 5-year-old has with these bleeps and bloops.
Fun fact about you:
As of this summer I will have lived in the Richmond District of San Francisco for 20 years (not counting the four I lived in New Orleans, from 1999-2003). I've lived in three homes here, each one closer and closer to the ocean.
Who We Are: Elizabeth Haidle
Name:
Me & Eli
Location:
Portland, OR
Profession:
Freelance artist & musical saw player (& Creative Director of ILLUSTORIA)
Favorite artist/illustrator:
recent discovery: Nathaniel Russell; also Jillian Tamaki, Brecht Evens, Emily Carroll
Best book you've read in the past year:
Your Illustrated Guide to Becoming One with the Universe, by Yumi Sakugawa
Kids’ book you could read every night:
What Was I Afraid Of? by Dr. Suess
Best memory of being a kid:
Dressing up as a ham sandwich for Halloween, made with scraps I scrounged from my dad's studio. My head stuck out of a bite mark at the top. I had a little trouble climbing on the bus & standing during the ride to school, but it was worth it. Absolutely zero other people were a ham sandwich that year.
Favorite weekend activity:
3-course breakfasts. Also anything involving a hammock.
Song currently on repeat:
"The Very Thought of You," by Billie Holliday; I just know everything's gonna be alright when Billie sings.
Favorite meal:
Last time you made something with your hands:
Accordian fold mini book entitled: 'Inner Donkey'
Patterned postcards using eraser chunks as stamps
Fun fact about you:
I'm terrible at wrestling and my son always wants to, so I made up my own moves. One is called 'Cheek Pin', where you press the other person down by smushing your cheek really hard against theirs. Also they are maybe paralyzed by laughter, which helps. Another is called 'Cashmere Head Clamp' and requires one to be wearing a cashmere robe. Which I wear often.
Who We Are: Joanne Chan
illustration by Agnes Lee
Name: Joanne Chan
Location: Berkeley, CA / hometown: Oakland, CA
Profession: Mom of Sonia & Marcas and publisher of ILLUSTORIA
Happy Together: Marcas, Mark, me, Sonia
Favorite artist/illustrator: Pina Bausch and Hayao Miyazaki
Best book you’ve read in the past year: A Tale for the Time Being by Ruth Ozeki
Kids’ book you could read every night: Spider & the Fly by Tony DiTerlizzi (because we really do), Animals Should Definitely Not Wear Clothing by Judi Barrett & Ron Barrett, Mr. Tiger Goes Wild by Peter Brown.
Best memory of being a kid: shaking the blossoms off our plum tree and pretending it was snowing in Oakland; generally being out in the backyard and helping my dad water the garden, picking and eating apples, plums, mandarins, loquats and the sweetest cherry tomatoes on earth…catching butterflies and, sad to admit, putting them in jars to admire.
Favorite weekend activity: making granola and watching the kids play pirate-Harry Potter in the yard (a trip to the art museum at some point is a plus)
Marcas as pirate-Harry Potter with Dumbledore's staff
Song currently on repeat: Three White Horses by Andrew Bird (at home) and Piggies by The Beatles (in the car)
Favorite meal: any pasta dish made by Mark shared with family and friends, darkest chocolate and mint tisane for dessert
Last time you made something with your hands: lavender satchel necklace + denim tote bag + pencil case for Sonia’s 10th birthday
Birthday lunch note
Fun fact about you: I once choreographed and danced in a duet (with my dearest friend) in an abandoned subway tunnel in Brooklyn.